Dr. Patel: Māyā would help us even for finding out Kṛṣṇa also . . .
Prabhupāda: No. Māyā . . .
Dr. Patel: . . . because the body is the māyā, the mind is the māyā, and the very mind will help us, sir, that doesn't it help us to go towards Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: No. That is not māyā's help. When you surrender to Kṛṣṇa, māyā will not bother with your business. That means you get relief from māyā. You are no more under the jurisdiction of māyā. You. . . now you are under the jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted. Māyā will trouble you so long you do not go in the jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Yes, yes. Ye mām prapadyante māyā.
Prabhupāda: And as soon as you go under the jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam (BG 18.66), then there is no jurisdiction of māyā. Just like as soon as the sun rises there is no more darkness—automatically. You do not require to dissipate the darkness. As soon as there is sun, everything is light. (aside to passerby) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti te (BG 7.14). This is the process. It is simple method. To become under the jurisdiction of māyā, it requires great labor. But to become under the jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa, it takes a minute. But these rascals will not do that. Kṛṣṇa . . .
Dr. Patel: Because Kṛṣṇa Himself has made your eyes, all these indriyas outgoing, so . . .
Prabhupāda: Indriyas . . . He has made your eyes to see Kṛṣṇa, not a prostitute. That is your fault. Kṛṣṇa has given you eyes to see Him, but you are utilizing to see a prostitute. So that is not Kṛṣṇa's fault; that is your fault. Eyes are not bad. Kṛṣṇa has given you eyes to see Kṛṣṇa. But we are utilizing for other purpose. That is our fault. We are presenting this Kṛṣṇa's Deity in the temple, but who is coming to utilize his eyes? Nobody is coming. They will go to see cinema, beautiful actress. So they are utilizing the eyes for this purpose.
Dr. Patel: I have seen the last cinema in '58. Gone with the Wind.
Prabhupāda: Not your eyes . . .
Dr. Patel: It was Gone with the Wind.
Prabhupāda: So we are misusing everything. Therefore bhakti means stop this misuse. Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam (CC Madhya 19.170), that is bhakti. Whatever you have got, utilize it properly. Don't misuse it. That is all the instruction. Kuruṣva mad-arpanam (BG 9.27). Kṛṣṇa says, "Whatever you are doing with your senses . . ."