Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In Vṛndāvana, one day on a walk, you were saying that Kṛṣṇa's soldiers will walk all over the world, and they will approach everyone and say: "Do you believe in Kṛṣṇa?" And if they say: "No," immediately, kill them.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not kill them with weapon, but kill them by saṅkīrtana. They are already dead. So physical killing is for very big, big, strong man like Mao, or this Lenin, like that. Not common people. They have to be shown mercy.
Hari-śauri: More a question of revival for the common people. More a question of revival.
Prabhupāda: If they allow us to forward our movement, then we are satisfied. And when there is hindrance, the person who is hindering, finished. But don't do it now, (chuckles) then you will be finished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Do you think the time will come when we will . . .?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Because Kṛṣṇa has two business: paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ vināśāya ca duṣkṛtam (BG 4.8). We are for delivering all people. Anyone who will put hindrance, then we have to finish. Not small; big. Yes. That is going on all over the world, politics.
Gurukṛpā: Cāṇakya Paṇḍita, he also . . .
Prabhupāda: That is the way everywhere. (break) They will be automatically finished. Just like the Ramakrishna Mission, who are advertising that they have done wonderful importance. They are now finished. They are simply making false propaganda in India. Actually, they have got fangs. What is called, fangs?
Gurukṛpā: Phans?
Prabhupāda: The poison teeth?
Devotees: Fangs.
Prabhupāda: Fangs, fangs. That is broken. So make . . . first of all try to push books everywhere, all over the world. They have got so many languages, like Russian or . . . black market. Chinese also. Black market, they cannot check.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, no, and you don't need permission either.
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And there's more profit, too.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In black market.
Prabhupāda: And yes, if there is demand, then you will make good profit also. And there will be demand.
Hari-śauri: They'll be big demand for your books.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very big, very big.
Prabhupāda: They trans . . . sent one translation of Tulasi dāsa's Rāma-caritra-mānasa. It was sold, all, in a week. And therefore they have stopped now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow, really?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurukṛpā: It is Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: They sent stocks, Bhagavad-gītā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes I wonder that—of course, we want our books to be translated by our own men—but in the absence of sufficient translators . . .
Prabhupāda: Any way. That thing, you see, that our men means they know the philosophy. Others, they do not know. That is the difficulty.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Supposing we have—I'm just using this hypothetical . . .
Prabhupāda: Any, "our man" who knows Russian language, he should check.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Professionals may translate, but one of our men may check?
Prabhupāda: Yes, just like our books are being done in Germany now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Yeah, then you can have quite a few books translated. Because if we only depend on our men for the entire translating work, it will never get done.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Then get professional man, but he may not create the havoc.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he must be checked by someone who knows. Whew, this is exciting. I'd love to see your Bhagavad-gītā, the most widely-read black market book in Russia.
Prabhupāda: Then that will create revolution.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Whew. These books are very revolutionary. You are very strong. You have put everything in a very clear-cut, strong words. You have attacked everyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious as fools and rascals.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) This is a fact. It is not exaggeration.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In your article in Back to Godhead about Marx, you call him a . . . what is that?
Gurukṛpā: Nonsense.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: A nonsense. You call him "Marx is nonsense."
Prabhupāda: Yes, what is his philosophy? Dialectitude?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Dialectic Materialism.
Prabhupāda: So, we have written one Dialectic Spiritualism.
Hari-śauri: Harikeśa's.
Prabhupāda: Harikeśa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he read it to us in India. He's preaching, I think, in Eastern Europe sometimes. We got a report. Has he written you?
Prabhupāda: Yes. I heard that, but is he being all right or not?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: From the report it appears that he goes occasionally into some Eastern European countries. Mostly he's concentrating in England, Germany and Scandinavias. He has a party, and they are doing speaking engagements and distributing books. And sometimes he went in . . . which countries?
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Czechoslovakia, Hungary. He went to Budapest.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He is going to some Communist European countries.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: They make their vans with false bottoms, and they hide the books underneath, so at the border they do not see. Underneath the van is all your books. When they get in the country then they distribute the books to these students.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Revolution.
Prabhupāda: It is very nice.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Sometimes he said when he's speaking, the translator will not say what he is saying because it's . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes he forgets—usually he speaks very carefully, guarded words. But once or twice he says . . . he starts speaking direct Krishna consciousness, and the translator looks at him and won't translate it into the local language. Sometimes he forgets himself and starts speaking about Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the translator suddenly looks at him. Usually he covers everything.
Prabhupāda: He has done a good job.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He is a fit person, very intelligent.
Prabhupāda: So in this way . . . you are all intelligent; you can plan. The aim is how to distribute books. That is first consideration. (break) In Bhāgavata it is very figuratively described that we have got this body and the different parts. Just like Arjuna is sitting on the chariot. There is chariot driver, there are horses, reins, there is wheel, and the arrow and the bow. They have been figuratively . . . so this can be used for killing the enemies of our Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and then give up all this paraphernalia, chariot, wheel. Just like after fighting, only victory, then you kill them. And similarly this body is there, the mind is there, the senses are there. So utilize it for conquering over this material existence. And then give up your body and go back to home.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Does the devotee . . . I mean, just like you are always enthusing us to push on . . .
Prabhupāda: That is sharpening your weapons. That is also described. By serving the spiritual master, you keep your weapon always sharpened. And then take help from Kṛṣṇa, the words of spiritual master sharpen weapon, and yasya prasādad bhagavata . . . and the spiritual master is happy, then Kṛṣṇa immediately will help. He gives you strength. Suppose you have got a sword, sharpened sword. But if you have no strength, what will you do with the sword? Kṛṣṇa will give you the strength, how to fight and kill the enemies. Everything is described. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu, guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya (CC Madhya 19.151). Make your weapon sharpened by the instruction of the spiritual master, and then Kṛṣṇa will give you strength, you'll be able to conquer. This figurative explanation I think last night I give.