Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Even an insignificant bird, because he knows swimming, he knows swimming, so he can challenge, and because you do not know swimming, you cannot say like that. Even insignificant bird, just see how nicely he is swimming. He knows the art. (break) . . . one, cent percent of the modern people, they do not believe in God, and they do not know what is religion. That is the position. They think, "Religion is sentiment. Anyone can manufacture his own sentiment. There is no God." This is the position. So we are in fault. "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." The whole world is under this conception. Therefore we are at fault. We are preaching God consciousness.
Brahmānanda: Generally they make it difficult for us to preach.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: They hinder us in so many ways.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: Because they have not realized that we have taken a responsibility. When a man has a responsibility, usually he is given some certain facilities to carry out that responsibility.
Prabhupāda: Everyone, cent percent godless, neither they have got intelligence to understand what is God. This is the position.
Yogeśvara: Then we are giving them the intelligence as well as the answers? Because if they have no intelligence to understand. . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. Our organization is that. Why you are opening so many centers? Just to give these rascals intelligence. Why Kṛṣṇa is recognizing so nicely a preacher? Because He knows that he has to face so many difficulties. He is not easygoing, armchair politician. No. He has to face so many difficulties.
Mādhavānanda: Therefore Kṛṣṇa recognizes by giving knowledge of Himself?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa immediately gives him all facilities.
Mādhavānanda: There has never been a movement like this which has given factual knowledge of God. Therefore they think it's sentiment, religion.
Prabhupāda: So we have to abide by their sentiment? Because they are rascals, we have to become rascals?