Mrs. Furman: We saw you on television tonight. Did you see? Was it Channel Four? The news has been on, it's on again at eleven. Very nice.
Mr. Furman: It was a very good representation. Very good.
Prabhupāda: So it is not a sectarian religious sentimental movement. It is a movement for giving real education, knowledge, to the people all over the world without any discrimination. So at least those who are intelligent class of men, they should join and study this movement, and try to broadcast for the good of the human society. The basic principles I have already explained.
Mr. Boyd: A statement was made some time ago in a conversation that somebody was looking for the Gītā without the Rāma. Could you explain what they might be meaning by that?
Vipina: The Gītā without the . . .
Mr. Boyd: The Gītā without the Rāma, that's all the statement was, that kind of an indication.
Prabhupāda: Gītā without Rāma?
Dr. Sharma: Perhaps they said Gītā without Rāmāyaṇa. But you have already said:
- yadā yadā hi dharmasya
- glānir bhavati bhārata
- abhyutthānam adharmasya
- tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmy aham
- (BG 4.7)
Which also, Hare Rāma, Hare Kṛṣṇa, includes Rāma.
Prabhupāda: Yes, there is no difference between Kṛṣṇa and Rāma.
Dr. Sharma: We do chant Rāma and Kṛṣṇa both.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa has said in the Gītā, "I am Rāma." "I am Rāma."
Hari-śauri: Who made the statement?
Mr. Boyd: I don't think it makes any difference who made the statement, it was just a comment that somebody wanted the Gītā without the Rāma, which indicated to me that they didn't want the whole picture, they didn't want the total package. Whatever it was, I couldn't put the two together, because Rambaru must have taken the Bhagavad-gītā back to Germany with her.
Dr. Sharma: Actually, here is a one-to-one translation. (Sanskrit)
Prabhupāda: The Tulasī dāsa's Rāmāyaṇa means Rāma-carita. It is not Rāmāyaṇa. Rāma-carita Manas. He was devotee of Lord Rāmacandra. So as he was thinking of Lord Rāmacandra, he has written. So he was a learned scholar, brāhmaṇa, he must have read Bhagavad-gītā, Bhāgavatam. So all his translation is there on the basis of the śāstra, especially Bhāgavata and Bhagavad-gītā. You'll find many parallel passages. But Gītā is the summary of all Vedic literatures, and it is spoken by the Personality of Godhead. So if we fix up our attention on the Bhagavad-gītā, then you can get advantage of all other śāstras.