Prabhupāda: In Dallas, Dallas I wanted to lie down in the open air. "No, no, you cannot do this."
Dr. Patel: In that way Europe is better. England is far better. In England anywhere you can sleep.
Prabhupāda: No, no, England . . . England you cannot lie down on the open. No.
Dr. Patel: No, no, but on the countryside you can pitch a tent . . .
Prabhupāda: No, that is not possible. It is very cold.
Dr. Patel: No, no, not in . . . I mean in summer.
Prabhupāda: Even in summer it is not possible.
Dr. Patel: I have seen people going and touring about . . . (break)
Girirāja: (reading) ". . . cannot safely walk a city street or sleep without fear of burglars, then the government has fallen far short of the actual standard of a legitimate administration." (break)
Prabhupāda: We are criticizing strongly in our paper.
Dr. Patel: (indistinct) . . . I mean, he is right, absolutely correct. If this is the case in America . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . command a position. If you manufacture government like that, it will never be capable.
Girirāja: "But it's said in all authentic, revealed scriptures, wherein it is declared that the purpose of civilized human life is to live together in peace and harmony so that everyone can advance progressively in spiritual life . . ." (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . purpose of life. But they do not know what is the purpose of life. They have taken the idea as cats and dogs, simply sense gratification. Now where . . . how there will be good government? (break) . . . all leniency to the Muhammadans to get vote. That's a fact.
Dr. Patel: That woman has played the havoc with this. (break)
Prabhupāda: Yes. I mean to say, Mahābhārata, anywhere, or Rāmāyaṇa, you'll never find a woman is elected on the topmost post.
Dr. Patel: And that was widow, with all the . . .
Prabhupāda: No, woman is never . . . was made a king. That was . . . now it has become a fashion.
Dr. Patel: And the widow with all her virtues.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) . . . says greatest politician. Viśvāso naiva kartavyaḥ strīṣu rāja-kuleṣu ca. So our present head of the state is both woman and diplomat. That's all.