Prabhupāda: That's good. Why Śyāmasundara does not return?
Jayatīrtha: He's here. He's also asleep. He came in the middle of the night, two or three o'clock in the morning.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . public touch. Untouchable.
Jayatīrtha: (indistinct) . . . is in charge of our traveling saṅkīrtana party, so he's back here for a few days. They're going around to all the fairs, State fairs, county fairs, and distributing literature. He's had very great success
Prabhupāda: That's nice. Indians are coming in Europe and America to learn technology, but next generation will come here to learn spiritual science, to seek brahmins. What do you think?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, there's no doubt about it. They will learn technology the coming years, and when they become frustrated again, then they will again learn the spiritual science.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: A lot of times when the Indian people come to our temple, they remark like that, that they've never seen such a temple and devotees.
Prabhupāda: There is no such temple in India. As we are maintaining our temple, there is no such temple in India. There are temple, they are neglected. Just like here, the churches are neglected. (break) . . . demons, and here we are manufacturing demigods.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I read in the newspaper that in the next five-year plan, they are planning to spend about thirty-two billion rupees for education, the greatest for ten years. They said that there were so many mistakes for the last ten years in introducing the basic education that everybody said there is no success. So they are planning another thirty-two billion rupees from 1974 onwards.
Prabhupāda: What education? To eat meat and beef.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That education. And no restriction of sex even amongst the leaders. Yes.