Prabhupāda: You have to work. Otherwise . . . This is material world. Without working, you cannot get anything. (break) . . .between material world and spiritual world. In the material world you have to work to get your necessities. In the spiritual world there is no need of working. (break)
Rādhā-vallabha: . . .talking about the spiritual world is pie in the sky. They say that we should just talk about how to take care of things here.
Prabhupāda: You cannot take care. There are so many problems. You cannot take. You are simply crying, "The problems are there. Problems are there."
Rādhā-vallabha: Then they will say, "Well, how will talking about the spiritual world help solve the problems here in the material world?" (break)
Prabhupāda: . . .concerned with the material world, you remain.