Brahmānanda: They say you have to earn your relaxation.
Prabhupāda: But earn or not earn, I am enjoying relaxation.
Brahmānanda: You're not entitled, unless you work very hard.
Prabhupāda: Oh. That is nonsense.
Upendra: In America they say you have to pay for freedom.
Prabhupāda: No, freedom, if I have got already, why shall I pay? I have already paid. Why you're inducing? I am already enjoying. Why you are inducing me to work hard? I have paid for it. By my karma in my previous life I have already paid for that; therefore I am enjoying.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They don't believe in the law of karma.
Prabhupāda: Therefore they are rascals. Rascal. This is a rascal civilization. Rascal civilization: one side, they say contraceptive; another side, they will encourage woman to marry three times a week. This is their civilization. If you want stop population, why you are inducing, "Indulge in sex life"? Stop sex life—brahmacārī. Everything is contradictory. And it is all sense gratification, based on sense gratification.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: If a person is not satisfying his senses they think he is crazy.
Prabhupāda: But where is your sense satisfied? You are crazy. You are repeatedly being kicked by nature, that your senses will never be satisfied. Still, you are trying for that. Even the old man of eighty years old, he is going to the nightclub. Where is sense satis . . . When his senses will be satisfied? (aside:) Jaya. Relaxation . . . If somebody is relaxing, chanting, they will induce, "Oh, you are escaping."