Guest (1): Oh, I mean I'll get that much. That could be as good amount as you . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Where? Where? Your claim?
Guest (1): Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: You have to . . . you have to pay so much stamping fee.
Guest (1): No. The maximum stamp duty to be paid is fifteen thousand. Even if you've got a claim of fifteen crores, fifteen thousand is the maximum stamp duty you have to pay. You don't have to pay more.
Prabhupāda: Fifteen thousand you have to pay?
Guest (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Anartheno nyaya rohita . . . in this age, Kali.
Guest (1): (indistinct Hindi) . . . he owes me money, and I couldn't get my money back from him.
Prabhupāda: If you have no money, then you cannot get justice, because he's claiming after all it is right claim, but if he had no fifteen thousand, then he could not claim it. Fifteen thousand is there, then . . .vaqil . . . lawyer so on, so on. So anyone who has no money, he cannot get justice in Kali-yuga. Anartheno nyaya rohita. Nyay milega hi nahi You will not get justice . . . (indistinct)
Guest (1): A lot of that fifteen thousand is exempted in some spaces, but even then you have to field yourself two times . . . (indistinct) . . . and remain in the . . . I mean present yourself in the court in the mood to argue and talk and all that things. So naturally if you don't have even that much, you have to forego . . . (indistinct) . . . What you're saying is hundred percent true. It's like that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And nowadays bribe also.