Prabhupāda: Then don't discuss. Sleep. If you cannot understand God's logic and God's philosophy, then don't discuss. Stop discussion.
Rādhā-vallabha: Jewish people say that you can't chant the name of God because it is too sacred.
Prabhupāda: Yes, too sacred, that's . . . Actually that's a fact. And those who are too sinful, they cannot chant. (break) . . .these ten kinds of offenses. (break)
Rādhā-vallabha: . . .that God has put the world here for us to enjoy, so we will please Him by enjoying it. (break)
Prabhupāda: However, you go at four o'clock to your working place and come at night, ten. Is that enjoyment?
Rādhā-vallabha: But on the weekend we can go to the beach. And we can eat whatever we want.
Prabhupāda: No, no, you can go to hell also. Different thing . . . (break) . . .jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānu (BG 13.9). That is there. If you are suffering from disease, where is enjoyment? Mental discomfort, bodily discomfort. You are taking thrice pills for tranquillity. Is that enjoyment?
Rādhā-vallabha: They say you have to take the good with the bad.
Prabhupāda: This nonsense enjoyment. Fool's paradise. For keeping the mind in tranquillity he is taking four times pills. For sleeping, he is taking pill. Does he enjoy that?
Rādhā-vallabha: By suffering you can get a deeper appreciation . . .
Prabhupāda: Then what is enjoyment? Suffer. Then why it is called enjoyment? By suffering you can . . . (indistinct—much static from here on)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They claim that Christ died for them, and do as . . . (indistinct) . . .. And then he walked out . . . (indistinct) . . .. So they think he is very special, because this has not happened to anyone else. And this can happen to everyone who accepts the same . . .
Prabhupāda: We say nobody dies. What did Christ . . . (indistinct) . . .? . . .that takes birth never dies.