Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, we found a very nice house in London, and you're going to get the credit for purchasing it. Just see.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: Well, if Kṛṣṇa desires.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything Kṛṣṇa does, but one takes credit. That's it.
Jayatīrtha: Yes. We think that we're the doer, but actually Kṛṣṇa is the doer.
Prabhupāda: Harer nāma (CC Adi 17.21).
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's been a feeling that all year their hard work has all become worthwhile simply by coming here.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Yes. Make it more... Therefore I wanted first of all this house, not the temple, because where they'll stay? They'll come to the temple, where they will stay? If you get staying place, then you can act your brain and improve. And if you are harassed—no place—then brain will not work. Therefore I wanted first of all the residential place. And they criticize me, "Oh, you did not construct temple first." And a temple of the devotees is first, our temple. Then God. God will come if there are devotees. Tatra tiṣṭhāmi nārada yatra gāyantī mad-bhaktāḥ (Padma Purāṇa). Unless there is devotee, where is God? God is not a stone. Any stone is God? Unless there is devotees, there's no God. Therefore, without devotee, the idol; this is idol worship. That is not worship. Therefore they cannot understand what is the form, what is the distinction between form of the Lord and idol. They do not know how to worship in devotion. Ye yathā māṁ prapadyante (BG 4.11). They are thinking, "It is stone, and God is remaining here, stone. He will never speak," because they are not devotee. If you become devotee... Just like Sākṣī Gopāla. For devotee He went to give witness, "Yes, I'll walk." That is God. And if you are not devotee, how you can expect the stone statue is walking? You have read that Sākṣī Gopāla?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, very nice.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Gopāla was saying that "You are asking Me to go to give witness. Do you think a statue can go?" So he is devotee. He said, "Yes, if statue can speak, he can go also." So he had firm faith. So Kṛṣṇa had pledged him, "Yes, I'll go."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think you also have that firm faith, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: No, without firm faith there is no beginning of God worship.