Prabhupāda: . . . make there the varṇāśrama established, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra—division, scientific division of the society. Ideal state. Just like the legislative assembly, they should be composed of men with complete brahminical culture. And the ministers, president, they should be kṣatriya, and the productive, vaiśyas, and balance śūdra, worker. Unless an ideal class of men is on the top of the state to give advice—just like Britishers, they assemble Parliament—there cannot be any improvement to the human society. All nonsense and rascals, simply by votes go to be member of the Parliament, like that. What they know? What they'll do? The whole world is mismanaged because there is no brahminical culture. Namo brahmaṇya-devāya go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya ca, jagad-dhitāya kṛṣṇāya govindā . . . (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 1.19.65). I am proposing this because Kṛṣṇa consciousness means namo brahmaṇya-devāya go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya ca. That must be . . . the state must be in favor of brahminical culture and cow protection. Then everything will be all right. So Manipur is small state. If they agree, the leaders of the . . . it is not politics, it is betterment of the situation. And without brahminical culture, all these third class, fourth class, loafer class, simply by votes, hooks and crooks, and becomes president, Nixon and so on. Where is the betterment? It will never be.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All bluffers.
Prabhupāda: All. So Manipur is a small state. If it is possible . . . hmm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So I should ask some of them to . . .
Prabhupāda: Hmm. If some of the leaders may come and see me. Just like the governor of Chandigarh. He's nice man. He came to see me in his governmental position, with his aide-de-camp, car and men. So I think Manipuri people . . . and it is a Vaiṣṇava state, why not make it Kṛṣṇa conscious? They are already Kṛṣṇa conscious. Make it in a systematic way.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: These chief minister, they claim . . . they're called R.K.s, means rāja-kumāras. Claim to be the descendants of the . . .
Prabhupāda: Babhruvāhana. Then he can do that. He can do that. And what is the wrong? Suppose the legislators become first-class brāhmaṇa, so what is the wrong there? Hmm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. In Manipur, it's not so much influenced yet from outside civilization.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I suggest. They are Vaiṣṇavas. They can take it and show an ideal state in the world. Then others may follow.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Every day in the radio, they have this Caitanya-caritāmṛta reading at one o'clock.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In the radio, all Manipur radio, is this Caitanya-caritāmṛta. They read Bengali. Somebody . . . one reads and another translates. It is a regular feature. And Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa. These are radio programs.
Prabhupāda: Just see. So why not? I may go or not go, but let the leaders take up this process to make Manipur an ideal state of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's already practically . . . it's already a lot of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. And they are coming from Babhruvāhana. Babhruvāhana is the son of Arjuna.
Brahmānanda: They have much farming there.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is wanted. Farming is wanted. What is this nonsense industry? When I passed through Berkeley and New York, really hellish, these buildings. Some of them are finished, all broken. Similarly London also. This civilization has no value. It is a demonic civilization. Jagataḥ ahitāya. Find out this, Sixteenth. Ugra-karma, jagataḥ ahitāya.