Prabhupāda: "We are trying." Is not that science?
Satsvarūpa: Yes. They're very happy about . . . they say . . .
Prabhupāda: Happy must be because he's a fool.
Satsvarūpa: They say man has only been in existence a little while comparatively. So he's just very young. He's got so much he's going to learn, and then, because he's young . . .
Prabhupāda: That means he is going to learn. He is not learned. That is another word of rascal.
Satsvarūpa: He's new on the scene, so don't expect too much, but he'll soon know everything.
Prabhupāda: What is new? History, whole history, is the same. Your forefathers, his forefathers never have done that? Why it is new?
Satsvarūpa: Well, they say there's been regular improvements, medicines . . .
Prabhupāda: What is that improvement?
Satsvarūpa: Medicines have done away with so many diseases.
Prabhupāda: What is that? Disease . . . does it mean there is no disease? You die by this disease or that disease. What is the improvement?
Gurukṛpā: They say that people used to live much longer . . . that they live longer now.
Prabhupāda: So what is the use of living longer. A tree is living longer, five thousand years. Does it mean that it is important life? A tree is standing for seven thousand years. There is a tree in San Francisco . . .
Gurukṛpā: Yes, I saw that.
Prabhupāda: You have.
Hari-śauri: Redwood forest.
Prabhupāda: And from the stoutness and strongness it will live another seven thousand years. Does it . . .? Is it living, worth living, to stand up very stout and strong in a place for fourteen thousands of years? Is that life? Hmm? I have spread this Kṛṣṇa consciousness within ten years, and he is standing eight thousand years. So credit goes to him or to me? Better to live for ten years than to live for ten thousand years in that condition. And therefore they are ass, mūḍha. They do not know what is life. What improvement they have made?
Gurukṛpā: Their only improvement now is abortion and homosex. That is the most popular thing.
Prabhupāda: Tch, tch. Just see.
Gurukṛpā: They feel that if you are not . . . if you are inhibited in your sex life—if you only choose women—then you are not progressive. You must become liberated from these moral or, they call it, "hang-up" feeling. "This is not correct." Now they drive their children to the homosex dance, the parents, and let the boy out, and he goes into the homosex dance. Only men allowed. They take them there.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā?