Candanācārya: Why do you need wings if you can fly? Also Garuḍa has a beak. Where are we going now?
Hari-śauri: Prabhupāda said in Hawaii there's no.... (pause)
Prabhupāda: The old man, her father?
Hari-śauri: I hope so. (pause) (break)...
Prabhupāda: Send to Svarūpa Dāmodara, he has got also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Monday. Sunday, Monday?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Days are in this order. So naturally one has to conclude that sun first, moon second. Naturally.
Rādhāvallabha: They will say, "Who has set up the order?"
Prabhupāda: Anyway, you accept it. All over the world, nobody says that Monday first. Then?
Candanācārya: Is this also in Sanskrit language? Sunday, Monday.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, yes. Ask all scientists this simple question. Why, all over the world, Sunday, sun first and moon second? Why? And Saturday last. All of you could not answer this question. (devotees laugh)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You have stumped us.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali verse) Baḍo baḍo bānare, baḍo baḍo peṭa, laṅkā dingahe manamarā heṅṭa(?). "Big, big monkey, big, big belly. Ceylon jumping, melancholy."
Hṛdayānanda: We are all big monkeys.
Candanācārya: How are they able to perpetuate such an enormous hoax?
Prabhupāda: Enormous hoax for the fools, not for the intelligent persons.
Hari-śauri: They never fooled you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Hari-śauri: They never fooled you. (Prabhupāda laughs)
Candanācārya: That means that some people must know the actual truth about the hoax in the American system, so if we can find them...
Prabhupāda: So you are knowing that. State it.
Rāmeśvara: In other words, is it, is it that there is deliberate trick? It is deliberate.
Prabhupāda: Ahh, it may not be deliberate, but they are fools. They are talking nonsense. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But what about the people, like the men on the ship who say they have jumped on the moon? Are they lying and being paid off, or are they just.... What, I mean what is the actual position? Some men are getting on a television saying, "We landed there, it was like this, it was like that."
Prabhupāda: No, I saw that television, at that time, the whole thing broke wrong. There was a press representative. He protested. I was protesting from the beginning, but they could not show how they jumped, at the last. Going, going, going, but at the time of jumping, melancholy. Ceylon jumping melancholy.