Prabhupāda: The Māyāvāda says: "Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa is God within you." The Dr. Radhakrishnan said, the rascal, "Kṛṣṇa is within. The outside is material body." You have read that.
Dr. Patel: There is no within and without . . . I have not read that. There is no within and without so far God is concerned. God is everywhere.
Prabhupāda: And similarly, similarly, guru also—no within, no without. Otherwise how we can say sākṣād-dharitvena? Directly. If you make distinction, how he can be directly?
Dr. Patel: Within, without is . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. But he has attained that position on account of his being very, very dear to God. Because doing God's work. Eh? God says: "Surrender unto Me." Guru is preaching. That is real guru. He's preaching, "Surrender to Kṛṣṇa." He'll never say, "Surrender unto Me."
Dr. Patel: No guru says so.
Prabhupāda: All rascals says. All rascals say.
Dr. Patel: But rascals are not gurus.
Prabhupāda: No, no. The gurus, so-called gurus, there are. These Māyāvādīs, all they say, "I am God."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nārāyaṇa.
Prabhupāda: "Let me now have rāsa dance. Send your children. Send your wife, send your daughter. We'll dance." These are all rascals, Māyāvādīs. Māyāvādī-bhāṣya śunile haya sarva-nāśa (CC Madhya 6.169). This is the statement of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. As soon as one hears the statement of Māyāvādī, he's doomed, he's finished. He's finished.
Dr. Patel: You have been bracketing so many good people like that, with the bad, and I feel strongly . . .
Prabhupāda: Where is good people?! Where is good people?!
Dr. Patel: . . . about this philosophy of yours.
Prabhupāda: All rascals! Let them come. Let them come. Yes! I shall kick on their face! I am so strong. Where is good man?
Dr. Patel: You see . . .
Prabhupāda: I have already kicked already that . . . what is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bala Yogi.