Prabhupāda: We have got our testing tubes in Bhagavad-gītā. Who was speaking that "If God is talking, what is the use of spiritual master," yesterday?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes, that was a . . .
Prabhupāda: "God will talk with anyone."
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He said, "God is talking with them from within."
Prabhupāda: To any rascal. Does any rascal know that God is within? And He's witnessing all criminalities. Does he accept that? Then the yogīs should not have illicit connection with their disciples. Do they believe God is . . .? It is simply business for earning money and getting woman. They have no other . . . Valueless. Therefore the government has said, "Fake." What is that? Actually, that is a fact. So many rascals are coming, especially in America. Government, they are seeing, "What is this?" "Transcendental meditation and do whatever nonsense you like." Guru Maharaj-ji: "No use of books." Practically we are saving the whole world. What can be done? There are so many rascals. Let us do it sincerely. And if we also become victimized, then it will be stopped. Āpani ācari' prabhu jīve śikhāilā. Anyone who says that God is speaking with, immediately take him as rascal. God is so cheap that He will talk with rascals. He wants to talk, but he cannot hear. Lord Jesus advised him, "Don't steal." Why does he steal? If God is not advising from within, then why he's going at night when everyone asleep. God is not dictating that "Don't steal"? But he will not care for God's instruction. Then, it is whose fault? If I say that "You don't do it" and still you do it, then?
Hari-śauri: Rascal.
Prabhupāda: God is always prepared to talk with us in talking, but we don't . . . He talks through devotee, He talks through scripture—who is caring for that? Sādhu-śāstra. God is talking through sādhu. (break) (drinking juice) Sometimes it is sweet; sometimes it is sour. Why?
Hari-śauri: Just the oranges. They have such a big variety.
Prabhupāda: Next, the third part, how many pages?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The third part of Seventh Canto?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What is the last chapter in the . . . I'm not sure, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I have to inquire from him. The Fifteenth Chapter, though, is very long.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It should be long. So many long purports in the Fifteenth Chapter of the Seventh Canto.
Hari-śauri: What's it about?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Nārada Muni . . .
Prabhupāda: About the foretelling of Bhāgavatam. The other day I recited so many verses. One of them, long hairs. Now see how practical. And now this is confirmation of the foretelling. Who knew five thousand years that people will keep long hairs and think of themselves as very beautiful? It is mentioned in Bhāgavata. How it is possible unless they can see actually what is going to happen? That is foretelling. And other description, they are also fact. Everything is there. And all this is five thousand, two thousand years' foretelling. The millions and millions of years' foretelling they are: what will the eighth Manu, and how they will . . . ninth Manu, tenth Manu, up to fourteenth Manu. All the Manus together, forty-three lakhs, thousand times. This is the all the Manus' time. And the whole history is concluded that "Now I have mentioned past, present and future." It is not difficult. Just like tomorrow for my daily routine, what I shall do tomorrow from morning to evening, I can say. Is it very difficult for me? So it is a question of Brahmā's one day. So it can be said by them, not by us. These rascals think only in their standard of thinking: "I cannot live in such, such condition; therefore there is no living entity." This is their idea. "I cannot live within the water; therefore there is no living entity. I cannot live within the fire; therefore there is no living entity." Kūpa-māṇḍūkya-nyāya, the same. "Whatever is in my experience, three feet water . . . How there can be unlimited?"
Hari-śauri: I was reading a very good example like that. These men, they have this, what's called divining, that they find water by means of a stick. They lay a stick on their hands like this, and they turn around in different directions, and the stick suddenly dips and points to the ground wherever there's water underground. And it's proven that it works. It's a very effective way of finding water. But no one knows how to . . . how it works. So they put a suggestion during the Vietnam War to the Marines that they should use this method for finding out the underground tunnels of the Viet Cong so that they could find them very easily. So they showed them by experiment that it's practical and it works. So they gave the rods to the physicists, and they checked them all out, and they couldn't figure out how they worked. So they said that because the physicists could not understand how it worked, therefore it was rejected. So they rejected the whole thing. So then the Marines in Vietnam, they heard about it, so they started to use the rods themselves, and in that way they were able to destroy many enemy hideouts. But officially the Marines had to reject it, because the scientists couldn't understand how it worked, so therefore they said that it was no good, it wasn't viable.
Prabhupāda: The scientists' first proposal is: what they cannot understand, don't bring. That is not scientific. Whatever you say, that is not scientific. Whatever they say, that is scientific.