Prabhupāda: Britishers, they train. Just like in India, they trained. They were on the head of the administration. The Viceroy, the governor, the secretaries, the military commander, they are all Englishmen. All other, Indians. Therefore Gandhi started non-cooperation movement that, "These people are ruling over us by our cooperation."
Gurudāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So "Non-cooperate with them, they will fail." And that was successful. He started non-cooperation movement that, "Don't cooperate with these Britishers." And when they saw there is now full non-cooperation, they left voluntarily. It is not possible to bring so many administrators, military strength, men, and too. Actually the British empire was expanded through the help of Indians.
Gurudāsa: Yes, they did all the work.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurudāsa: Actually, if the British were more intelligent they could have continued.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Gurudāsa: Just like that mutiny. The grease was used in the guns, and the brāhmaṇas mutinied?
Prabhupāda: That is propaganda. (looking at ground) Now, this is urine?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Just see nonsense.
Gurudāsa: Yes.