Prabhupāda: So brahma-jijñāsā means spiritual inquiry. So the cat and dog cannot inquire. It is not possible. But when you have got this human form of body, especially born in India and especially born in a brāhmaṇa family, if you misuse your life like cats and dogs, that is a great loss.
Indian man (7): Idol worship, impersonal, considered as a stepping stone. Is it fact?
Prabhupāda: I don't follow. What is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Is worshiping the idol a stepping stone?"
Indian man (7): Idol worship, mūrti-pūjā, is considered as a stepping stone only. When you attain something, then you need not do it.
Prabhupāda: So unless you step one by one, how you can go to the topmost? You have to.
Indian man (7): After attaining that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. First of all you have to step on the first step, then second step, then . . . Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate (SB 1.2.11).
Indian man (7): Thank you.
Prabhupāda: So everything requires training and knowledge.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. That's all.
Devotees: Jaya. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kīrtana. (break)
Indian man (8): Can you please explain that it is our only way out for salvation?