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Everything is created. This table is created. You cannot say that it has come naturally. This form may be created or it exists at a certain state of time, but the energy is never created

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"Everything is created. This table is created. You cannot say that it has come naturally" |"This form may be created or it exists at a certain state of time, but the energy is never created"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

Prabhupāda: Why not created? I see that your mother became pregnant and you were created and you are . . . why you say . . . your natural . . . your mother did not become naturally pregnant. Everything is created. This table is created. You cannot say that it has come naturally.

Karandhara: This form may be created or it exists at a certain state of time, but the energy is never created.

Prabhupāda: What is that nature? Nature means an instrument. Instrument, there must be one player. Nature is instrument. Just like this is an instrument. It is not recording by itself. When you push the button, then it works. You cannot say that "It is working by nature."

Karandhara: They might say that by "nature," they mean it happens naturally. What's happening naturally, they mean it doesn't require anyone . . .

Prabhupāda: No. What things are happening naturally? Your father begets you, therefore you talk. Naturally you have not come. If your father would not begotten you through your mother, how did you come? Naturally your mother does not become pregnant. What things happening naturally?

Karandhara: No, but by the father impregnating the mother, that is natural, naturally.

Prabhupāda: Why naturally? If father does not pregna . . . there are so many now "bachelor daddies." Nothing can be took natural. Nature is an instrument.

Karandhara: Well, they say . . . some say that nothing was actually ever created, so there is no need for . . .

Prabhupāda: Everything is created. That is rascaldom. He is speaking; he is created by his father, the rascal who is talking like that. You were created by your father.

Karandhara: No, but essentially, he says, they are not created.

Prabhupāda: Why not created? I see that your mother became pregnant and you were created and you are . . . why you say . . . your natural . . . your mother did not become naturally pregnant. Everything is created. This table is created. You cannot say that it has come naturally.

Karandhara: This form may be created or it exists at a certain state of time, but the energy is never created.

Prabhupāda: So that also we admit. That is another thing. But the . . . therefore we have got two departments: the spiritual world and the material world. In the material world everything is created. In the spiritual world, not created; it is ever-existing. And anything which is created, that is annihilated.

Karandhara: The energy is not annihilated.

Prabhupāda: No. That we also accept. But that energy belongs to whom?

Karandhara: Well, they say because it was never created, it didn't have to be created.

Prabhupāda: No, no. This material world is created. That you cannot say: "It is not created." Everything we see in our front, everything is created.

Karandhara: Well, they say: "Nothing is created."

Prabhupāda: No. Created in this sense: it is manifested.

Karandhara: In that sense. But that still isn't the creation of the energy itself.

Prabhupāda: That . . . what is that energy? That is spiritual energy. Therefore we divide material energy and spiritual energy. In the spiritual energy everything is manifested and non-manifested. And the spiritual energy, everything is ever-existing. Sanātana. Sanātana. Paras tasmāt tu bhāvo 'nyo 'vyakto 'vyaktāt sanātanaḥ (BG 8.20). Sanātana means ever-existing. There is another nature, but that is not this nature. That we admit.

Karandhara: But this energy was never created, then what is the need for a creator?

Prabhupāda: No. We admit the energy is not created. But energy comes from the energetic. Energy . . . just like you may become angry. So that anger energy is there in you, but it is not manifested. So there are certain energies which sometimes manifested, sometimes not manifested. So this energy, material energy, is of God. This energy is sometimes manifested, sometimes not manifested. But there is another energy, which is eternal. That is spiritual world. That is our . . . this is scientific study.

Page Title:Everything is created. This table is created. You cannot say that it has come naturally. This form may be created or it exists at a certain state of time, but the energy is never created
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-09-15, 15:53:37
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1