Prabhupāda: Māyaiva vyāvahārike (SB 12.2.3). Even in ordinary dealings, people will cheat you. That is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Māyaiva vyāvahārike. Vyavaha, ordinary dealings. Even in ordinary talkings they will tell so many lies. (break) They live nicely in fresh air, in open air, trees, and talking about their business, and they are happy. They have no problems for eating, sleeping, mating, nothing. Everything is there.
And we are claiming civilized. We are dealing with science to improve conditions; the rascals, they are becoming more and more degraded. They have no science, they have no laboratory, they have no university. How they are living peacefully? So it is . . . if this life is better or this life of cheating and imperfectness, full of anxieties, this life is better? Which life is better?
Jayatīrtha: The animals, they are living by the arrangement of nature; they live according to their nature. Whereas the human beings . . .
Prabhupāda: They have no anxiety.
Jayatīrtha: . . . perform prohibited activities and requirements and are living actually against their own nature. So the animal's life in that sense is better. At least they're not performing any sinful activities.
Prabhupāda: That I explained last time, that they are simply misusing their advancement, and they are satisfied when they have got a motorcar instead of bullock cart. That's all. They think, "Now I am advanced. We had bullock cart, now we have got motorcar with three hundred thousand parts. And every part will give me troubles as soon as it is old," (chuckles) and that is advancement. As soon as one part is broken, the bullock cart is called for. They get a bullock cart to carry this motorcar. (break) Everyone is servant.
(pause) Therefore we teach our students to address "prabhu." "I am your servant, you are my master, prabhu." That is the meaning of prabhu. Prabhu means master. And Prabhupāda means supreme master. That is the meaning.
Jayatīrtha: In this country there's a saying that everyone should be their own master. That's the philosophy. It's called individualism.
Prabhupāda: Own master . . . he does not know how to make . . . how to become own master. That he does not know. He speaks only. Now, what is your explanation to become own master? How do you explain? Explain.
Jayatīrtha: The idea is that they want to be . . . to determine their own destiny.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Jayatīrtha: They want to determine their own destiny. They think if they work very hard, they'll be able to build up their environment . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: This is not explanation. You should know: own master means master of the senses.