Candanācārya: "Whatever You give me, that I will accept." Like Kuntī.
Prabhupāda: Why shall I take from Kṛṣṇa? I should give.
Candanācārya: No, I mean instead of praying to demigods to give me something,
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes)
Candanācārya: Saying: "Whatever You . . ."
Prabhupāda: No, a devotee.
Candanācārya: "Whatever You decide, Kṛṣṇa."
Prabhupāda: A devotee never prays to Kṛṣṇa. They have to undergo so much trouble; still they never pray to Kṛṣṇa . . . jai. They know that, "Kṛṣṇa will give us ultimately protection. Let us do our duty." Tat te 'nukampāṁ susamīkṣamāṇaḥ (SB 10.14.8). When a devotees in difficulty, he's not disturbed. He thinks, "It is Kṛṣṇa's wish that I should suffer like this. It is not suffering; it is my pleasure." Just like when a patient is undergoing surgical operation, there is pain, but he knows, "It is better for me." Therefore agrees, "Yes, sir. You go on with your knife." So when your surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa says that, "I shall give you protection," so even in our distressed condition we must know that we are being protected by Kṛṣṇa. We should not be disturbed. Because we create so-called distress and happiness. Actually, this world is distress. Here the so-called happiness is also distress. So why a devotee should be disturbed by distressed condition? Harer nāma harer nāma (CC Adi 17.21). (break)
Candanācārya: One time you said that Kṛṣṇa consciousness is not difficult, but to remain determined, that is difficult. Determination is difficult. So how do we . . .?
Prabhupāda: That determination comes by tapasya. Therefore we have got rules and regulation. If you follow the rules and regulation, then you will be determined. Otherwise, you will be victim of māyā. The rules and regulation is there just to keep you fixed up in your determination. But we don't follow, then you fall down. Just like physician says, "You don't take this along with medicine. You take this." That is rules and regulation. If you follow, then you do not become victim of disease again. If you don't follow, then you . . . what choice the physician will do?
Candanācārya: Did it also requires determination to follow the tapasya.
Prabhupāda: And if he cannot, then he's cat and dog; he's not a human being. Why he should accept initiation? Let him remain a cat and dog. He promises to follow, and if he cannot follow, then he is nothing but cat and dog. In the court, they take promise that, "In the name of God," "In the name of Bible." So that means he will speak the truth. Similarly, before the fire, before Deity, before guru, before devotees, he's promising something, and if he does not follow, then he's cat and dog. He cannot advance. That's not possible. That is the distinction between cat and dog and human being.