Ambassador: Most of... Well, I mean, I was a very political person. I must be very honest with you.
Prabhupāda: No, I'm talking of...
Ambassador: To me, Gītā means Gandhi's Gītā which said in a very distorted, very limited version...
Prabhupāda: Gandhi did not know anything about Bhagavad-gītā.
Ambassador: (laughs) I understand him best.
Prabhupāda: Well, you... Gandhi may give his opinion, but why he should give through Bhagavad-gītā?
Ambassador: I know. Anāsakta-yoga is really...
Prabhupāda: He should not take advantage of... That is being done. Everyone is taking advantage of the popularity of Bhagavad-gītā and he's expressing his own opinion.
Ambassador: That's true.
Prabhupāda: This is going on. We want to stop this nonsense. If you have got opinion, you write different book.
Ambassador: Yes. But not...
Prabhupāda: Why you should misuse Bhagavad-gītā.
Ambassador: The devil can quote the scripture for his purpose.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Ambassador: That's what Shakespeare said, sir, "The devil can quote the scripture for his purpose."
Prabhupāda: That's it. Yes. That's a fact. Yes, why you should try to introduce your philosophy... Now, say, for Gandhi's non-violence. Where is non-violence in Bhagavad-gītā.
Ambassador: (laughs.) It's... Yeah, this is true. Ahiṁsā paramo dharmaḥ, dharmo 'hiṁsā tathaiva ca. (?)
Prabhupāda: So our, our point is that you may express your own op... Everyone has got right to... Especially Mahatma Gandhi, he was actually a great personality. There is no doubt about it. But so far Bhagavad-gītā is concerned, he did not know anything. But from his behavior, it was seen that at heart he was a devotee. Yes. At heart he was a devotee. Yes. Because he was chanting...
Ambassador: Yes, of course, he, of course, shares with you this belief in chants. That we noticed, yes, very much in...
Prabhupāda: That raghupati rāghava rājā rāma.
Ambassador: Vaiṣṇavism.
Prabhupāda: Ah. So that... But maybe for politics, he has explained like that.