Prabhupāda: Does it mean that because he has created this park, therefore contamination will not act upon him? Is it a fact? It must act. So after creating all these things, if you contaminate some infectious modes of material nature, then you have to accept the body of cats and dogs. Then what is your benefit? Huh? Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-sango 'sya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu (BG 13.22). Kāraṇam, the reason for high and low grade birth, is due to contamination with the modes of material nature. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Paramahaṁsa: Yesterday, we said that . . . Prahlāda Mahārāja said that he didn't fear Lord Nṛsiṁha-deva, even though He was so ferocious, but he feared the material nature.
Prabhupāda: That is contamination. If I be contaminated with the material nature, then I'll have to accept a body given by material nature.
Paramahaṁsa: But it's said that a devotee's supposed to be fearless.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Paramahaṁsa: It is said that a devotee is supposed to be fearless.
Prabhupāda: Fearless because devotee means one who has taken shelter of Kṛṣṇa. He is devotee. He's fearless. And one who has not taken shelter of Kṛṣṇa, how he can be fearless? Suppose there is epidemic disease. If you have got vaccination, then you can remain fearless. Otherwise, the epidemic will contaminate and you'll have to suffer. So Kṛṣṇa is the vaccination to remain fearless.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You have used the example, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that just like a little child, when he's near his father, he knows he has nothing to worry about. His father will protect him.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (japa) Today it is cold, eh? Where is our Karandhara?
Bhagavān: Karandhara Prabhu. He's here.
Prabhupāda: You are feeling very cold?
Karandhara: Not too cold, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: I am feeling. Old man.