Category:Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila Chapter 18 Purports - Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Visit to Sri Vrndavana
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- A description concerning Viththalesvara is given in the Bhakti-ratnakara - Fifth Wave
- About Lohavana, the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave) states: “At Lohavana, Lord Krsna used to tend cows. The demon named Lohajangha was killed at this place”
- According to Mayavada philosophy, whoever becomes a sannyasi declares himself Narayana. Foolish people accept such ordinary human beings as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This is called vivarta-vada
- According to some opinions, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu visited Kuruksetra while going to Prayaga from Vrndavana. There is a temple of Bhadra-kali in Kuruksetra, and near that temple there is a temple containing the Deity of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
- According to the Mayavada philosophy, when one becomes a sannyasi he is to be considered a moving Narayana. Mayavada philosophy holds that the real Narayana does not move because, being impersonal, He has no legs
- According to the Muslim scripture, without evadat, offering prayers at a mosque or elsewhere five times daily (namaz), one cannot be successful in life
- Actually an ordinary human being cannot become Narayana. As the chief Mayavadi sannyasi, Sri Sankaracarya, says, narayanah paro ’vyaktat: “Narayana is not a creation of this material world. Narayana is above the material creation”
- Actually the word triveni indicates the confluence of three rivers - namely the Ganges, Yamuna and Sarasvati. Presently the Sarasvati River is not visible, but the river Ganges and the river Yamuna merge at Allahabad
- After being initiated, the devotees in the Krsna consciousness movement change their names. Whenever a person in the Western world becomes interested in this Krsna consciousness movement, he is initiated by this process
- Akrura-tirtha is also mentioned in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave): “Srinivasa, look at this village of Akrura. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu stayed there in a solitary place”
- Akrura-tirtha is located on the road between Vrndavana and Mathura. When Krsna and Balarama were being taken to Mathura by Akrura, the Lord rested at this place and took His bath in the Yamuna
- Although Balabhadra Bhattacarya was personally serving Lord Krsna in His role as a devotee (Caitanya Mahaprabhu), he mistook Lord Krsna for an ordinary man and an ordinary man for Lord Krsna because he did not follow the rules set down by sastra and guru
- Although Mayavadi sannyasis may offer respects to other sannyasis and address them as Narayana, they do not go to a Narayana temple and offer respects. These Mayavadi sannyasis are always condemned and are described as demons
- Although Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was living in Vrndavana, the inhabitants considered Him an ordinary human being, and they mistook the fisherman to be Krsna. Every human being is prone to make such mistakes
- Although there was very little water, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was omniscient and could understand that formerly these two ponds were called Sri Radha-kunda and Syama-kunda. In this way Radha-kunda and Syama-kunda were discovered
- Another kind of pasandi is one who does not believe in the spirit soul, the superior potency of the Lord, and therefore does not distinguish between spirit and matter
- Arit-grama is also called Arista-grama. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu understood that in that village Aristasura had been killed by Sri Krsna
- As stated in Srimad-Bhagavatam (SB 11.5.32), krsna-varnam tvisakrsnam sangopangastra-parsadam. Krsna appears in the Age of Kali in the garb of a devotee, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
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- Bathing at the confluence of the Ganges and Yamuna, near the fort at Allahabad (Prayaga), is mentioned in the revealed scriptures
- Bathing during the month of Magha at the Magha-mela still takes place. This is a very old mela (assembly), dating from time immemorial
- Because Lokanatha dasa Gosvami did not want his name mentioned in the Caitanya-caritamrta, we do not often see it in this celebrated book
- Because they (puzzled people who visited Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) were speculating with their imperfect knowledge, they saw Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu as an ordinary human being and a boatman's light in the lake as Krsna
- By the process of a bona fide initiation, their (those who are interested in understanding Krsna) names are changed
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- Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s first statement (krsna kene darasana dibe kali-kale) refers to the scriptures. According to scripture, Krsna appears in Dvapara-yuga, but He never appears as Himself in Kali-yuga. Rather, He appears in Kali-yuga in a covered form
- Concerning the offense of aham-mama-buddhi, or dehatma-buddhi (considering the body to be the self), Jiva Gosvami states -Those who are overly absorbed in the conception of the body and the bodily necessities are also called pasandis
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- Due to their poor fund of knowledge, Mayavadi sannyasis think that Narayana, the Absolute Truth, takes birth as a human being and that when He realizes this, He becomes Narayana again
- During his ripe old age, when Rupa Gosvami could not go to Govardhana Hill because of invalidity, Gopala kindly went to Mathura & remained at the house of Viththalesvara for one month. It was then that he could see Gopala's beauty to his heart's content
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- Even if a person is born in a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya or sudra family, he is a mleccha or yavana if he does not strictly follow the regulative principles or if he eats meat
- Every twelfth year there is a Kumbha-mela, a great festival, and all the holy men from all over India assemble there. The brahmana wanted to take advantage of the Magha-mela and bathe there
- Everyone has to see Krsna according to the verdict of Vedic literatures presented by the self-realized spiritual master. A sincere person is able to see Krsna through the transparent via medium of Sri Gurudeva, the spiritual master
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- For an explanation of this verse (CC Madhya 18.125, quoted from Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.33.6), see Madhya-lila, Chapter 16, text 186
- From there (Khejura) one has to walk or, during the rainy season, go by boat to the village of Talakhadi. In this village there are still descendants of Lokanatha Gosvami’s younger brother
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- Ganthuli-grama is situated near the two villages Bilachu and Gopala-pura. According to hearsay, Radha and Krsna first met here
- Generally karmis take advantage of bathing there (in Prayaga) during the month of Magha, thinking that they will be rewarded in the future. Those who are situated in devotional service do not very strictly follow this karma-kandiya process
- Govinda-kunda is situated near here (a village on Govardhana Hill named Aniyora), and there are two temples to Govinda and Baladeva there. According to some, Queen Padmavati excavated this lake
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- He (Balabhadra Bhattacarya) wanted to see Krsna directly by going to Kaliya-daha, but Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, being the original spiritual master, would not allow His servant to fall into such foolishness
- He (Lord Caitanya) therefore chastised him (Balabhadra Bhattacarya, by being influenced by the words of fools wanted to see Krsna directly by going to Kaliya-daha), slapping him just to bring him to a real sense of Krsna consciousness
- He is never Narayana, just as a molecular portion of sunshine is never the sun itself. The living entity is nothing but a fragmental part of the Absolute Truth; therefore at no stage of perfection can a living entity become the Supreme Personality of God
- His (Lokanatha Gosvami's) father's name was Padmanabha, and his only sibling was a younger brother named Pragalbha. Following the orders of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Sri Lokanatha went to Vrndavana to live. He established a temple named Gokulananda
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- If one goes to Prayaga and bathes at the confluence of the Ganges and Yamuna in the month of Magha, he attains the result of giving hundreds and thousands of cows in charity
- In India we are falsely accused of converting mlecchas and yavanas to the Hindu religion. In India there are many Mayavadi sannyasis known as jagad-guru, although they have hardly visited the whole world
- In northern India the places (where the panca-gauda-brahmanas come from) are Kanyakubja, Sarasvata, Gauda, Maithila and Utkala
- In southern India the places (where the panca-daksinatya-brahmanas come from) are Andhra, Karnataka, Gujarat, Dravida and Maharashtra
- In the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave), it is stated, sakhi dunha vastre ganthi dila sangopane - The two (Radha and Krsna) concealed Themselves by tying Their outer garments together
- In the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave), the following statement is found - Govinda-kunda is exalted for its many spiritual activities. It was here that Indra, defeated by Lord Govinda, offered prayers to Him and bathed Him
- In the Bhakti-ratnakara (Sixth Wave), there is a list of many of the chief devotees who accompanied Srila Rupa Gosvami - during his stay in Mathura
- In the Bhakti-ratnakara it is said that Sri Krsna and Balarama used to play at Khela-tirtha with the cowherd boys during the entire day. Mother Yasoda had to call Them to take Their baths and eat Their lunch
- In the Bhakti-sandarbha it is stated - A pasandi is one who considers the demigods and the Supreme Personality of Godhead to be one; therefore a pasandi worships any kind of demigod as the Supreme Personality of Godhead
- In the book Stavavali (Vraja-vilasa-stava 74) the following verse is found - With humility caused by great fear, Indra took hold of the lotus feet of Krsna and, performed His coronation festival by bathing Him with the waters of the heavenly Ganges River
- In the Mathura-khanda it is stated - Simply by bathing in Govinda-kunda, one is awarded liberation. This lake was produced when Bhagavan Sri Krsna was bathed by Lord Indra
- In this Kamyavana, Krsna performed enchanting pastimes. Here you will be able to take darsana of many ponds and other transcendental spots. I cannot even describe in writing all the sacred tirthas found at Kamyavana - Bhakti-ratnakara, Fifth Wave
- In this regard (CC Madhya 18.109), Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura comments that jangama-narayana means that the impersonal Brahman takes a shape and moves here and there in the form of a Mayavadi sannyasi. The Mayavada philosophy confirms this
- It is also stated (in CC Madhya 18.37, quoted from the Fifth Wave of Bhakti-ratnakara), phaguya laiya keha ganthi khuli’ dila - With a phaguya They (Radha and Krsna) undid the knot - For this reason the village is known as Ganthuli
- It is also stated (in the Fifth Wave of Bhakti-ratnakara) - Look at the dense forest near the kunda. It was there that Gopala was concealed
- It is said that ever since the Lord in the form of Mohini took a bucket of nectar and kept it at Prayaga, holy men have gathered there every year and observed the Magha-mela
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- Kaliya-hrada is mentioned in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave): “When one takes a bath in Kaliya-hrada, he is freed from all sinful reactions. One can also be successful in business by bathing in Kaliya-hrada”
- Kamyavana is mentioned in the Adi-varaha Purana: Lord Siva said - The best of all forests is the fourth of these, named Kamyaka. O goddess Devi, any person who goes there is eligible to enjoy the glories of my abode
- Karma-yoga and jnana-yoga are certainly described in the Koran, but ultimately the Koran states that the ultimate goal is the offering of prayers to the Supreme Person - evadat
- Khadiravana is described in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave): “Behold the forest named Khadiravana, renowned throughout the universe. If one comes to Khadiravana, he can immediately be elevated to Visnuloka”
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- Laghu Haridasa should not be confused with Junior Haridasa, who committed suicide at Prayaga. Generally a devotee is called Haridasa, and consequently there are many Haridasas. The chief was Thakura Haridasa. There was also a Madhyama Haridasa
- Lord Krsna’s kingship over the cows became splendidly manifest (in CC Madhya 18.37 quoted from Stavavali, Vraja-vilasa-stava 74). I pray that Govinda-kunda, the lake created by that ceremonial bath, may eternally appear before my eyes
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- Mahavana is described as follows in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave): “Behold the house of Nanda and Yasoda in Mahavana. See the birthplace of Lord Krsna. Mahavana and the birthplace of Lord Krsna, Gokula, are one and the same”
- Maya is so strong that even a person like Balabhadra Bhattacarya, who was constantly staying with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, was influenced by the words of fools
- Mayavada philosophy supports the impersonalist view that Narayana, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, has no form. One can imagine impersonal Brahman in any form - as Visnu, Lord Siva, Vivasvan, Ganesa or Devi Durga
- Mayavadi sannyasis consider themselves Brahman, and they superficially speak of themselves as Narayana
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- Of Srivana (also called Bilvavana), the Bhakti-ratnakara states, devata-pujita bilvavana sobhamaya: “The beautiful forest of Bilvavana is worshiped by all the demigods.”
- On some pretext, the Gopala Deity granted Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu an audience beneath the hill, and Gopala similarly favored Srila Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami
- On the E.B.R. Railroad, the Yasohara station is located in Bangladesh. From the railway station one has to go by bus to the village of Sonakhali and from there to Khejura
- On the whole, a pasandi is a nondevotee who does not accept the Vedic conclusions. In the Hari-bhakti-vilasa (1.117) there is a verse quoted from the Padma Purana describing the pasandi
- One must see things as they are through the mercy of a spiritual master; otherwise, if one tries to see Krsna directly, he may mistake an ordinary man for Krsna or Krsna for an ordinary man
- One who disobeys the orders of the spiritual master is also considered a pasandi. The word pasandi has been described in many places in Srimad-Bhagavatam, including 4.2.28, 30 and 32, 5.6.9, and 12.2.13 and 3.43
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- Simply by accepting the danda of the order of sannyasa, one is immediately transformed into Narayana. Therefore Mayavadi sannyasis address one another by saying om namo narayanaya. In this way one Narayana worships another Narayana
- Simply by bathing for three days there (Kumbha-mela), one attains the results of such a pious activity (of giving hundreds and thousands of cows in charity). Because of this, the Sanodiya brahmana was very eager to go to Prayaga and bathe
- Some (so-called jagad-gurus) are not even sufficiently educated, yet they make accusations against our movement and accuse us of destroying the principles of the Hindu religion by accepting Muslims and yavanas as Vaisnavas. Such people are simply envious
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu always associates with His internal soldiers - Sri Advaita Prabhu, Sri Nityananda Prabhu, Srivasa Prabhu and Gadadhara Prabhu
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu could understand that the holy places known as Radha-kunda and Syama-kunda were at that time lost to everyone’s vision. He therefore discovered Radha-kunda and Syama-kunda, which were two reservoirs of water in two paddy fields
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately stated that a living being, however exalted he may be, should never be compared to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. All of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s preaching protests the monistic philosophy of the Mayavada school
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu pointed out that in the revealed scripture of the Muslims, love of Godhead is the ultimate goal
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was mistaken for an ordinary sannyasi, the fisherman was mistaken for Krsna, and the torchlight was mistaken for bright jewels on Kaliya's hoods
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu went to Vrndavana before the birth of Viththalesvara. As previously mentioned, Srila Rupa Gosvami was very old at the time Gopala stayed at the house of Viththalesvara
- Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, specifically mentioned that a sannyasi is nothing but a fragmental portion of the Supreme (cit-kana jiva). In other words, he is nothing more than an ordinary living being
- Sri Lokanatha Gosvami was a personal associate of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and a great devotee of the Lord. He was a resident of a village named Talakhadi in the district of Yasohara (Jessore), in Bengal. Previously he lived in Kacnapada
- Sri Vallabha Bhatta had two sons. The elder, Gopinatha, was born in 1432 Sakabda Era (A.D. 1510), and the younger, Viththalesvara, was born in 1437 (A.D. 1515) and died in 1507 - A.D. 1585
- Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura gives the following information about Govinda-kunda. There is a village named Aniyora on Govardhana Hill, a little distance from the village of Paitha
- Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura says that the word pasandi refers (in CC Madya 18.115) to one who considers the living entity under the control of the illusory energy to be equal with the SP of God, who is transcendental to all material qualities
- Srila Narottama dasa Thakura selected Lokanatha dasa Gosvami to be his spiritual master, and Narottama dasa Thakura was his only disciple
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- The brahmanas from these places (Kanyakubja, Sarasvata, Gauda, Maithila, Andhra, Karnataka, Gujarat, Dravida and Maharashtra) are considered to be very strict followers of the Vedic principles, and they are accepted as pure brahmanas
- The central point of Krsna consciousness is that the jiva, the living entity, can never be accepted as Krsna or Visnu. This viewpoint is elaborated in the following verses - from CC Madhya 18.112
- The following Vaisnavas were present with Srila Rupa Gosvami: Dvija Haridasa; Krsnadasa Kaviraja; Sri Gopala dasa, whose body is completely spiritual; Sri Gopala; Madhava; and many others
- The following Vaisnavas were present with Srila Rupa Gosvami: Govinda; Isana; Sri Govinda; the magnanimous Vani Krsnadasa; Sri Uddhava, who occasionally visited Bengal; and many others
- The following Vaisnavas were present with Srila Rupa Gosvami: Sri Madhu Pandita, whose characteristics are all wonderful; Premi Krsnadasa; Krsnadasa Brahmacari; Yadava Acarya; the merciful Narayana; Sri Pundarikaksa Gosvami; and many others
- The following Vaisnavas were present with Srila Rupa Gosvami: the merciful Gopala Bhatta Gosvami; Bhugarbha Gosvami; Sri Lokanatha dasa Gosvami, a reservoir of good qualities; Sri Madhava; Sri Paramananda Bhattacarya; and many others
- The four persons (who were with Lord Caitanya and whom the Pathana soldiers wanted to kill) were Balabhadra Bhattacarya, his assistant brahmana, Rajaputa Krsnadasa and the Sanodiya brahmana devotee of Madhavendra Puri
- The glories of the Lord’s marginal characteristics prove Him to be the original SP of Godhead, the son of Maharaja Nanda. As soon as one understands this, one accepts Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krsna
- The monistic disciples of the Mayavada school (known as smarta-brahmanas) are generally householder brahmanas who accept the Mayavadi sannyasis as Narayana incarnate; therefore they offer their obeisances to them
- The original characteristics of a substance are called svarupa, and the subsequent corollaries are called tatastha-laksana, or marginal characteristics
- The Pavana-sarovara is described in the Mathura-mahatmya - One who bathes in Pavana Lake by Nandisvara Hill will see Krsna there along with Nanda and Yasoda and will fufill all his desires
- The puzzled people who visited Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu were actually seeing Lord Krsna, but they were mistaken in thinking that Lord Krsna had come to Kaliya Lake
- The revealed scripture of the Muslims is the Koran. There is one Muslim sampradaya known as the Sufis. The Sufis accept impersonalism, believing in the oneness of the living entity with the Absolute Truth. Their supreme slogan is “analahak.”
- The saintly Muslim admitted that those who were supposedly conversant in the teachings of the Koran could not ultimately understand the essence of the Koran
- The Stavavali (Vraja-vilasa-stava 75), by Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, states - Deceiving even Srimati Radharani, He (Krsna) ate all the offered food. Let me take shelter of the place known as Annakuta, where Lord Krsna enjoyed these pastimes
- The Stavavali (Vraja-vilasa-stava 75), by Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, states - When Nanda Maharaja offered a large quantity of food to Govardhana Hill, Krsna assumed a gigantic form and eagerly invited everyone to ask boons from Him
- The Sufi sampradaya was certainly derived from Sankaracarya’s impersonalists
- The Vedas clearly state that living entities are subordinate parts and parcels of the supreme. Eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman: the Supreme Being, Krsna, maintains all living entities
- The village named Annakuta-grama is referred to in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave) - Here all the gopis and the gopas enjoyed wonderful pastimes with Sri Krsna
- The village named Annakuta-grama is referred to in the Bhakti-ratnakara (Fifth Wave) - This place is also called Aniyora. The Annakuta ceremony was celebrated here. O Srinivasa, whoever sees this place has all his desires fulfilled
- The word sthanu means - a dry tree without leaves. From a distance one may mistake such a tree for a person. This is called sthanu-purusa
- The word yavana means - meat-eater. Anyone from a meat-eating community is called a yavana. One who does not strictly observe the Vedic regulative principles is called a mleccha. These words do not refer to any particular man
- There are brahmanas known as panca-gauda-brahmanas, who come from five places in northern India, and there are brahmanas known as panca-daksinatya-brahmanas, who come from five places in southern India
- There are two great occasions for bathing in the Ganges during Magha-mela. One is on the day of the dark moon, and the other is on the day of the full moon during the month of Magha
- They (Mayavadi sannyasis) never consider why Narayana, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, would accept an inferior position as a human being and then again become Narayana when He is perfect
- They (Muslims) accepted only the Lord’s impersonal feature. Generally they recite and explain this portion only. Although the transcendental body of the Lord is worshipable, most of them are unaware of this
- They (panca-gauda-brahmanas from northern India and panca-daksinatya-brahmanas from southern India) strictly observe Vedic principles and are not polluted by tantric misdeeds. All of these brahmanas respectfully invited Caitanya Mahaprabhu for lunch
- They (the puzzled people who visited Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) all said that they had seen Krsna directly performing His pastimes on the hoods of the serpent Kaliya and that the jewels on Kaliya's hoods were blazing brilliantly
- This (CC Madhya 18.109) is the viewpoint of Mayavada philosophy
- This (CC Madhya 18.34) is a quotation from Srimad-Bhagavatam (SB 10.21.18). It was spoken by the gopis when Lord Krsna and Balarama entered the forest in the autumn. The gopis spoke among themselves and glorified Krsna and Balarama for Their pastimes
- This (CC Madhya 18.65) is a verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam (SB 10.31.19) spoken by the gopis when Krsna left them in the midst of the rasa-lila
- This (CC Madhya 18.8) is a verse from the Padma Purana
- This Mayavada viewpoint (that Mayavadi sannyasis are Narayana incarnate) is always condemned by the Vaisnava school. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Himself protested this philosophy
- This quotation of Visnu Svami (CC Madhya 18.114) is cited in Sridhara Svami’s Bhavartha-dipika commentary on Srimad-Bhagavatam - SB 1.7.6
- This verse (CC Madhya 18.12) is found in the Govinda-lilamrta - 7.102
- This verse (CC Madhya 18.38) is found in the Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu - 2.1.62
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- Viththalesvara completed many of his father’s unfinished books, including his commentary on the Vedanta-sutra, the Subodhini commentary on Srimad-Bhagavatam, Vidvan-mandana, Srngara-rasa-mandana and Nyasadesa-vivarana
- Viththalesvara had seven sons: Giridhara, Govinda, Balakrsna, Gokulesa, Raghunatha, Yadunatha and Ghanasyama
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- We are not spoiling the Hindu system of religion but are simply following in the footsteps of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu by traveling all over the world and accepting those who are interested in understanding Krsna as Krsnadasa or Ramadasa
- When Krsna and Balarama took Their baths, Akrura saw the entire world of Vaikuntha within the water. The inhabitants of Vrndavana also saw the Vaikuntha planets within the water
- When the Mayavadis accept sannyasa and consider themselves Narayana, they become so puffed up that they do not even enter the temple of Narayana to offer respects, for they falsely think themselves Narayana Himself
- When the two brothers Srila Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami went to Vrndavana, they decided to live there. Following Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s example, they did not climb the hill because they considered it nondifferent from Krsna, the SP of Godhead
- While describing one of the offenses against chanting the holy names, specifically the offense - blaspheming the Vedic literature, Jiva Gosvami states in his Bhakti-sandarbha - Worshipers of impersonalists like Dattatreya are also pasandis
- While there (in Arista-grama), He (Lord Caitanya) inquired about Radha-kunda, but no one could tell Him where it was. The brahmana accompanying Him could also not ascertain its whereabouts
- Why should Narayana be imperfect? Why should He appear as a human being? Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu very nicely explained these points while at Vrndavana