Hari-śauri: The following is a conversation held in Śrīla Prabhupāda's room regarding the starting up of yoga courses for tourists in Vṛndāvana and Bombay.
Prabhupāda: There are... Just note down.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: No, if you teach yoga system, they'll pay for that?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: This is how it's going to work. We are going to give them free yoga lessons. They will come in our guesthouse and live there. But we have already increased the rate of the room.
Prabhupāda: That is not good.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, this is how all these yoga camps are working. They make their money from the rest, from the rent.
Prabhupāda: One who is not going to learn yoga system, then they have to pay increased rate.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No. This is an extra facility. In other words...
Prabhupāda: No, extra facility is... Somebody may be interested in learning yoga, others may not be. So why he should pay more?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Well we can charge them little more. I am just saying how the other establishments are running because this is the big attraction to get people, and almost every foreigner will be interested in this. This is like... It's not that they are really getting it free because we are covering ourselves by increasing the rates and the restaurant...
Prabhupāda: You are covering, but those who are not interested, why they should pay more? That is my point.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No. But... Yes... But the answer is, we have established a double pricing system, for all foreigners are paying fifteen rupees for single room, twenty-five for double. And the Indians are paying eight and fifteen.
Prabhupāda: When they understand that you have got such discrimination, they are dissatisfied.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, what we have done, we have added in various different points like extra bedsheet, one rupee, extra this... We have added in these extra points. So the total does come to fifteen and twenty. I have spoken to all the travel agencies, and they are willing to go along with us. In fact, they think that fifteen and twenty-five is very cheap. But I then explain to them that we can't make it any more because we are in competition with...
Prabhupāda: But you don't get customer even lesser than that. First of all see your position. You may calculate in the mind that "This is cheap, this is not," but cheap or no cheap, you are not getting any customers. (chuckling)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, because we never went after the tourist traffic. We have just started going after this foreign traffic with these brochures, and now we have...
Prabhupāda: And now, in the Sixth Chapter there are forty-seven verses. So divide forty-seven with seven.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's seven.
Hari-śauri: Seven.
Jagadīśa: Almost seven.
Hari-śauri: You want to do like seven verses a day?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, we can do seven verses a day.
Prabhupāda: Forty-seven verses should be divided by seven. So daily seven verses, average, one class.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: One hour class?
Jagadīśa: No, you said three hours a day.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but that... It doesn't have to be spread out. This is...
Prabhupāda: One hour... To explain seven verses may take more than one hour. It will take not less than two hours.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We want to have, in total, three hours of total yoga a day, including practice and class, like two hours in the morning, one hour in the evening.
Prabhupāda: So practice two hours and one hour class. And the yoga class, they should be given the seat caila, jina, ajina, kuśottaram. Seat. One straw... That... What is called? Kuśa...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Kuśa grass.
Prabhupāda: Kuśa grass. Kuśāsana, very nice, nice, and broad, especially. Upon this, there is a deerskin.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We should get deerskin also?
Prabhupāda: And how you will get? Why you are asking this nonsense question? Unless you get, why you waste time in that way? Where is...? Have you got? This is extra question. You must get. So, first of all this kuśāsana, then the deerskin and then a linen. Cailājina...
Hari-śauri: Caila, agna, ajina, sutaram,(?) kuśottaram.
Prabhupāda: Kuśottaram means upon the kuśāsana these, ajina, caila, caila... What is caila?
Hari-śauri: Caila, ajina, soft cloth and deerskin.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So kuśa, deerskin, soft cloth.
Jagadīśa: Cotton cloth?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: It should be of cotton.
Prabhupāda: Āsana, soft āsana. First of all, this kuśāsana, then the deerskin and then one...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Soft cloth. This will be excellent because nobody else is teaching yoga this way.
Prabhupāda: No. So they will sit down and perpendicularly. Perpendicularly, if you sit in this way, then you will automatically you become perfect yogi. Automatically. This should be practiced. In every class they should sit down with like this, like this, and they will not close the eyes but half-closed and see here.
Hari-śauri: Staring at the tip of the nose.
Jagadīśa: They supposed to look cross-eyed? In order to look at the tip of the nose...
Prabhupāda: That's all.
Jagadīśa: ...you have to look cross-eyed?
Prabhupāda: Why cross? You see, just easy, simply. That's all. This...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They can sit straight and also look.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This has to be practiced. And then they should be given lesson on six or seven verses very elaborately, and they will hear.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They should sit like this, and then they should hear.
Prabhupāda: So simple thing.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: But they may want...
Prabhupāda: So one, first, seven śloka they'll hear, then next class, they'll go to the next, in the next class, and next class, next class. In this way, one after another, within seven days they'll get the whole lesson.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So if we want to have three hours total. Even in the class...
Prabhupāda: Two hours.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: ...they should be sitting like this, isn't it?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So, in other words, the total three hours that they have to be like this...
Prabhupāda: Not total three hours.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Then what will they do in the third hour?
Hari-śauri: Well, I was thinking that...
Prabhupāda: There is no "I was thinking." This is nonsense. We must do according to the...
Hari-śauri: But can't we bring chanting of japa into it?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Mantra-yoga.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: That was my idea, that they should chant half an hour japa before class, and then sit in the posture and then have the philosophy because the chanting... First of all explain the purpose of chanting to fix the mind; then, once they've chanted, then they can sit and listen, and because they've chanted, they'll be that much more attentive.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's good idea. That's good idea. First chanting, second chanting.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: First chant half an hour...
Prabhupāda: Then lesson, take lesson. And then chant another...
Hari-śauri: Then, after that, some kīrtana.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Japa first, then class and then kīrtana.
Prabhupāda: At last kīrtana.
Hari-śauri: That would be like half an hour, an hour.