Prabhupāda: Bhakti . . . you try . . . you read carefully. Because you do not read, therefore . . . nitya-yuktā upāsate. Nitya-yuktā upāsate (BG 9.14). When they come to the point of nitya, there also the upāsana is there. One nitya is worshiping the other nitya. That is nitya-yuktā upāsate.
Indian man: Upāsana . . . upāsana means . . .
Prabhupāda: Upāsana means upāsaka, upāsana and upāsita. Three things. As soon as you bring upāsana, there must be one person who is offering upāsana, and there is a process of upāsana, and the other person accepting upāsana.
Indian man: Then we're assuming that we're . . . actually the idea of śuddha-bhakti is . . .
Prabhupāda: Bhakti means that. Nitya-yuktā upāsana. That's all. Upāsana continues. Here they're upāsana. Here the devotees offering worship to the Deity, it is upāsana. And after being perfect, that upāsana will continue. It will never stop.
Indian man: It will never stop, that's the fact. That is, when a man attains to . . .
Prabhupāda: But Māyāvādī philosophy is that you offer upāsana now, and when you are perfect you become one.
Indian man: Not one. I mean you merge with one. Not you become one. You merge with one.
Prabhupāda: Then there is no advaita-vāda. There is dvaita-vāda. Two. There is no advaita-vāda. If you accept that you remain different, then there is no advaita.
Indian man: We don't dare, do you see, ācchā, at a particular stage you like to merge with Him?
Prabhupāda: Meeting, I am meeting you. That does not mean we have become one. You are meeting me, I am meeting you. So we are different.
Indian man: What is ultimate object of that bhakti?
Prabhupāda: Ultimate object is you are offering this flower—this is bhakti. But you are different than me.
Indian man: That's all right. That is all right. That bhakti, you can call it love, you can call it in various ways. Bhakti means surrender.
Prabhupāda: Bhakti means the process by which Bhagavān and bhakta interact. That is bhakti.