Guest: So what is the idea behind the movement?
Prabhupāda: Behind the movement, that . . . this is the idea, that you try to understand the Supreme Being behind all, everything. That is perfection.
- idaṁ hi puṁsas tapasaḥ śrutasya vā
- sviṣṭasya sūktasya ca buddhi-dattayoḥ
- avicyuto 'rthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito
- yad-uttamaśloka-guṇānuvarṇanam
- (SB 1.5.22)
Idaṁ hi puṁsas tapasaḥ śrutasya vā. Everyone, big, big philosophers, scientists, they are engaged in tapasya and education, but they do not know what is the ultimate goal of this tapasya. The scientist is working very hard, and he has discovered a nuclear bomb to kill.
Guest: And what is the ultimate goal of tapasya?
Prabhupāda: Tapasya means that by his knowledge . . . suppose you are scientist. You prove by scientific way that, "Here is the supreme scientist who has given us all these laws."
Guest: Is it possible to see the Supreme?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest: With our own eyes?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.