Ātreya Ṛṣi: The basic difference still is that they are saying that Kṛṣṇa, God, whatever you call Him, He..., the paramparā system starts from Him sending a representative, and then that representative has devotees and devotees, like that. But we also say that that is true, but also there is, you could...
Prabhupāda: Bring that wrapper.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: That is true, but also we could have paramparā go all the way to Kṛṣṇa Himself.
Prabhupāda: Yes, paramparā is coming from Kṛṣṇa.
Nava-yauvana: In Islam they say that God cannot come to this earth.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: God would not come to this earth.
Prabhupāda: God cannot speak? God cannot come. A very big man, he can come, but He cannot speak?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: They agree. He can speak and He can send representatives.
Prabhupāda: Because He has spoken to Muhammad, and Muhammad has come, he is speaking the same thing. So recently... There is no need of God's coming. If Muhammad is speaking on behalf of God, then that is all right. There is no need of God's coming. This is paramparā.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: That they agree. And they also agree that that paramparā is lost. They agree with that because they can see there is nobody who can represent Muhammad. There is not a single person. They agree.
Prabhupāda: No, that is everywhere.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: In every religion it is true.
Prabhupāda: Just like these rascals, Bhagavad-gītā they explain in a different way. What Kṛṣṇa says, rejected. He says something else. That is the difficulty-paramparā is lost.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: And the most convincing argument that Your Divine Grace is making is that we are not just talking, we are also acting. That is the big difference between our philosophy and all the others. Because there are many good philosophies, but they all finish in talk.
Prabhupāda: Talking, that's all.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Perfect philosophy, but talk.
Prabhupāda: The scientists also, they are talking, but there is no practical proof.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Very fashionable.
Prabhupāda: Simply talking.