Guest (3): What percentage of people today know about Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: That is another thing. That we do not know. But anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he is, more or less, like cats and dogs. Maybe bigger dog, bigger cat. Just like amongst the dogs, there are different varieties also. So similarly he belongs to that dog, cat class.
Guest (2): Now if he is not got, then what shall he do to become aware?
Prabhupāda: No, everyone gets opportunity. But he'll not take the opportunity.
Guest (3): In this country, yes, everybody has got opportunity.
Prabhupāda: Not... Every country, every, all over the world. Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam... (BG 18.66). The opportunity's open for everyone, but he'll not do it. He'll say, "Why shall I surrender to Kṛṣṇa?"
Indian Woman: But, Guru Mahārāja, if one has some original faith in Jesus Christ or Muhammad, would he...? They think they're sons of God or a messenger of God.
Prabhupāda: No, Jesus Christ says "I am son of God." He never says, "I am God."
Indian Woman: So if they follow Jesus Christ...?
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's all right. Son of God is as good as God. That is another thing. We have no objection. Suppose in a big office, the father is there, the son is there. And the son has ordered something. The father will never say that "Don't do it." Because father and son, the same position. That is another thing.
Guest (1): But he is not Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guest (1): He is not Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: He's son of Kṛṣṇa. That's all.
Guest (2): Now, if we take another example.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): That some people worship gods.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Eh?
Guest (2): Some people who are strictly Śaivites.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's nice. That's nice.
Guest (2): No, No. But then what is the connection then between Kṛṣṇa and Śiva?
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa and Śiva, just like dahi and dudha. Dahi is nothing but dudha, but still it is not dudha.
Guest (2): It's a a different form.
Prabhupāda: Not different form, different action also. If you want milk, if I give you dahi, and if I say, "Oh dahi and dudha, the same thing. Why you are not accepting this dahi?", will you accept?
Guest (2): Correct.
Prabhupāda: Although the same thing, but action is different. If you become devotee of Lord Śiva, you'll get opportunity of material opulences. Because Lord Śiva is the husband of Durgā, and Durgā is the superintendent of this material world. So Durgā is under control. If one becomes a devotee of Lord Śiva, then Durgā gives him, eh? Dhanaṁ dehi rūpaṁ dehi rūpavatī-bhāryāṁ dehi yaśo dehi. So you'll get all this, nice position, nice wife, nice power, famous... All this material, not spiritual. So to worship any other demigod than Kṛṣṇa is materialism. That is not spiritualism.