Vedic literature, you will get all kinds of knowledge. Veda means knowledge, and the Vedic literature is full of knowledge. Nigama-kalpa-taru (SB 1.1.3). Nigama means Vedic knowledge, and kalpa-taru means the tree from where you can get anything you desire, whatever you desire. Generally we have got experience that a mango tree, if you desire mango, you can get from the mango tree. If you desire coconut, then you can get from the coconut tree. But you cannot get coconut from the mango tree and mango from the coconut tree. But there are trees where you go, you can get both mango and banana and coconut, and everything you like. That is called kalpa-vṛkṣa. We have no experience in this material world, but there is a tree. That is not in this material world; that is in the spiritual world. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29).
So we have to take knowledge from Vedic, Vedic scripture. Then the description of the spiritual world is there. What is that? Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu. They have got houses, they are made of touchstone. Here it is made of bricks and stone, ordinary stone. But there is another stone, which is called touchstone. If you touch it with the iron, the iron becomes gold. That is called touchstone, pareṣapatha. So the spiritual world, all the houses are made of this touchstone. You can take the Tata iron factory and touch it there. (laughter) It will be very profitable. (laughter) Yes. Or go there and bring some touchstone, as these moon exploiters, they go and they have brought some stone and some sand. But if you go to Kṛṣṇaloka you can bring some touchstone and make the whole Tata iron factory gold. (laughter) These informations are there. If you have got capacity, then you will go and bring it.
So in the spiritual world, the houses are made of touchstone, cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu, cintāmaṇi, the touchstone. Sanskrit name is cintāmaṇi. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa, and the trees . . . there are trees, but not like this, that you get coconut from coconut tree and mango from mango tree. But cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa. There any fruit you require, or even kacaurī, you can get. (laughter) That is called kalpa-vṛkṣa. There are trees like that. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa. And maybe one or two? No. Lakṣāvṛteṣu. There is a nice garden, or jungle you can say. There are many, many. Just like you have got experience here in this material world, if you go to the forest, you get so many trees, congested. In Africa I have seen—very, very high, long trees, and very congested, jungle. So prakara lakṣāvṛteṣu: similarly in the spiritual world, there are trees of this kalpa-vṛkṣa, where you can get anything you desire.
Lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr . . . and surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29). There Kṛṣṇa is very fond of cows. There is Kṛṣṇa's another name is Gopāla. Gopāla means who tends cows. Go means cow and pāla means one who tends. Therefore Kṛṣṇa's another name is Gopāla. Govinda. Govinda means one who gives pleasure to the cows, or Govinda means one who gives pleasure to the senses. So Kṛṣṇa's name are different. So cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29). There Kṛṣṇa is tending this surabhi. Surabhi cow means . . . that is also wonderful, spiritual. You can milk cow, milk from the cows, as many times as you like. Just like here in the . . . we have got experience, we can take milk from the cows morning and evening, not more than that. But there you can milk the cows whenever you like, and you can draw milk as much as you like. That is called surabhi cow. The trees are like that, the cows are like that, but there are houses, there are forests, jungle, trees, cows, water, everything, but they are all spiritual. All spiritual. Therefore there is one. Here is also one, because everything material. Whatever, either you take cow's body or your body or tree's body or any body, what it is made of? Kṣitir ap teja marut vyoma, the earth, water, air, fire and sky, that's all. Here it is all one, but . . . and there also it is one, but there it is all spiritual, and here it is all material. That is the difference.
That spiritual and material, what is the difference? The material is dull, and spiritual is consciousness. That is the difference. How the tree gives you . . . a mango tree there gives you a coconut? Because it is conscious.