Governor: No, four children, you said, one of whom could be taken out of many.
Prabhupāda: No, that I asked him. Actually, the idea is in the society, as it is recommended in the Bhagavad-gītā, cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). The guṇas are there. Just like naturally one is taking education just to become a politician, one is taking education how to become a high character saintly person. That natural inclination is already there, but that is not being properly harnessed. Therefore a regular educational institution should be there where proper training of brāhmaṇa, proper training of kṣatriya, vaiśya must be given. These four divisions must remain there. And the . . . so far the brahminical culture, that must be there. Otherwise you cannot say that "You become moralist." Where is the example of moralist? A section of person must be there, fully moralist. That ideal section is now lacking. Therefore, what I have written, that?
Brahmānanda: (reading) "As there are different sections of educational institutions, there must be one institution how to train up perfect brāhmaṇas with ideal characters as above mentioned in the Bhagavad-gītā. If there is a section of people of ideal character, say five percent, the other ninety-five percent, by seeing their example, will follow. In other words, a section of the society must be of ideal character. That is essential."
Prabhupāda: So therefore this varṇāśrama college is very essential.
Governor: Both intensive and extensive training.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Proper training. It may be extensive and intensive . . . Doesn't matter.